Orienteering and Covid
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
The region down to put on the JK in 2024 is struggling to find areas and has been looking at the possibility of using areas in a neighbouring region.
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
Duncan wrote:Rest assured we are considering when we might be able to reuse the already planned JK 2020 courses, whether that can be as a major event (Easter 2021 is not totally off the table, although not clear it can easily happen either), or at least some days on a lower key weekend. But as some have noted, there are plenty of considerations, and pros and cons, to work though.
How about a supercharged White Rose weekend if things are back to normal by then - bracken may be a problem!
If there's a chance it might be JK 2021 it would be worth reimposing the embargo. It can always be lifted if it doesn't work out.
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
An exhortation to the many:
There was a young person from Eve-
sham said, 'Patriots, I'll have you believe
That you must play your part -
Keep two metres apart
And sneeze every time in your sleeve!'
There was a young person from Eve-
sham said, 'Patriots, I'll have you believe
That you must play your part -
Keep two metres apart
And sneeze every time in your sleeve!'
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
Given that we appear to be encouraged to exercise outside and organisations like National Trust are opening parks and gardens for free, is this an opportunity for BOF and clubs to promote orienteering?
Non-essential travel is being discouraged but is that aimed at public transport? Perhaps BOF can get some advice on that?
Some clubs are already promoting permanent courses, but I'm sure there are lots of other ideas that could offer exercise and challenge whilst maintaining social distancing, for example temporary courses with DIY map printing or the use of apps like MapRun.
As orienteering is a competitive (and normally social) sport, sharing times routes, experiences online would be good.
Non-essential travel is being discouraged but is that aimed at public transport? Perhaps BOF can get some advice on that?
Some clubs are already promoting permanent courses, but I'm sure there are lots of other ideas that could offer exercise and challenge whilst maintaining social distancing, for example temporary courses with DIY map printing or the use of apps like MapRun.
As orienteering is a competitive (and normally social) sport, sharing times routes, experiences online would be good.
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
National Trust are opening parks and gardens for free
Yes. They announced closure of properties from Friday, but parks and gardens open. This certainly could not be described as discouraging visits.
Guidance on social distancing published on Gov.uk states: "Avoid non-essential use of public transport". That's it.
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buzz wrote:
Some clubs are already promoting permanent courses, but I'm sure there are lots of other ideas that could offer exercise and challenge whilst maintaining social distancing, for example temporary courses with DIY map printing or the use of apps like MapRun.
I was thinking this myself, but have come to the conclusion that promoting permanent courses isn't the right thing to do right now.
I think what the health officials want us to do is to keep exercising during this crisis, but on our own. The more people with healthy lungs the better. If we can reach a nearby permanent course easily then we could use that.
However promoting the courses might lead to some people using it as a day out and exposing themselves to a bit more risk. Getting their friends or family together in a car, having a medium length drive, stopping for fuel, pressing buttons on car park machines, grabbing a take away coffee etc.
The problem is that the NHS is not ready for a big outbreak, and those it can't treat but need to be treated are in real trouble. Which is why we need to take every opportunity to minimise social contact. I don't think everyone has got this message yet.
But in a few weeks time, when either everyone realises what the situation is, and won't take unnecessary risks, or the crises is coming to an end, then it might be a good time to promote permanent orienteering courses as a good way to maintain sanity (but on your own, printing off the map at home, not touching the posts etc).
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
Orienteering has the potential to be one of the few sports that could continue with relatively low risk of spreading the virus further; given individual rather than team participation, and few or no spectators. If this goes on for months, rather than weeks, we could perhaps develop ideas to make this more feasible.buzz wrote:Given that we appear to be encouraged to exercise outside and organisations like National Trust are opening parks and gardens for free, is this an opportunity for BOF and clubs to promote orienteering? ...
Things like:
- pre-entry available, even for level D events
- EOD via a phone app and contactless card payment (does anyone do this?)
- wider purchase of e-cards, or perhaps smartphones/QR codes, to avoid hire cards
- pre allocated start times (even when EOD) for all events; no start-line changes
- better signposting of distance to start, so people know when to leave their car
- large call-up clocks, that can be easily read from some distance away
- start time range spread over say 3 hours, with a maximum of 3 people per minute
- (if SI) check box on a stake rather than hand-held
- single maps placed on a table, not taken from a box
- touch-free punching, so control units don't need disinfecting
- larger start layouts, with say 3m squares to separate courses and minutes
- download stations on a longer lead from the computer, and no split printout
- no social function at event (food, traders, finish drinks etc)
- hand sanitisers / soap and water available for helpers (competitors bring their own)
could need relatively minor development from existing practice, but reduce personal contact to almost zero.
Whether even orienteers would be comfortable with events with such minimal human interaction is more debateable!
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In my view, the restrictions should be mandatory and legally enforceable. Leaving the public to interpret guidance is inadequate and invidious and it sends the (subtextual) message that the situation is not so serious, not serious enough for compliance to be mandatory.
Thus you get the National Trust effectively promoting visits to their parks and gardens, while Orienteering decides it cannot encourage a visit to a permanent course or MapRun in case people bring the family and make the day of it.
At some stage, we will have to work out a way to continue, if only at an informal level, while social distancing guidance is still in place.
Thus you get the National Trust effectively promoting visits to their parks and gardens, while Orienteering decides it cannot encourage a visit to a permanent course or MapRun in case people bring the family and make the day of it.
At some stage, we will have to work out a way to continue, if only at an informal level, while social distancing guidance is still in place.
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
France, despite its "lockdown" is allowing individual training (eg running - or orienteering).
I see no reason at all to sit in a house all day every day, that is just a recipe of madness, ill health etc. Getting out into the fresh air and exercising should be encouraged. Visit the local permanent course or re-run an old course. In Scotland the Outdoor Access Code allows use of any area at any time, so head out and run an old course, new course, no course, but just get out there and stay fit and healthy.
I'd be out running right now but my knee hasn't been right since last Saturday...
I see no reason at all to sit in a house all day every day, that is just a recipe of madness, ill health etc. Getting out into the fresh air and exercising should be encouraged. Visit the local permanent course or re-run an old course. In Scotland the Outdoor Access Code allows use of any area at any time, so head out and run an old course, new course, no course, but just get out there and stay fit and healthy.
I'd be out running right now but my knee hasn't been right since last Saturday...
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Sounds like a good idea, Jon. I'm hoping they don't have to put over 70s under 'house arrest'.
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
Big Jon wrote:France, despite its "lockdown" is allowing individual training (eg running - or orienteering). ...
Are you sure? I read elsewhere that during the current 15-day lockdown neither amateur nor professional athletes are allowed to leave home for training. Probably some are quietly ignoring the rules, particularly if they can get into forests without driving or otherwise being spotted.
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Snail wrote:Whether even orienteers would be comfortable with events with such minimal human interaction is more debateable!
Blimey, it would be a lot more 'comfortable' than sitting here staring at this screen!
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
France, despite its "lockdown" is allowing individual training (eg running - or orienteering).
From what I have read about the measures announced in France on Monday: You have to have good reason to be in the street. For example, you may walk to work, you may go to the shops for groceries, medicine, and you may run or walk for exercise, alone. This was stated explicitly in the ministerial briefing after Macron's TV address. I believe what is envisaged is a start and end point at your home, rather than driving to a lay-by and running around a wood, driving would be another matter (of which I don't know the details).
The lockdown came into force on Tuesday (I guess), although other measures were introduced before this date - the closing of restaurants and bars.
In Italy, no activity is permitted outdoors, solo or otherwise, apart from work, travel to work, grocery shopping, and of course in case of emergency.
That's what I have gleaned.
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Re: Orienteering and Covid
I have read that training is allowed - something like "brief individual training - no team sports" (can't find the link now!).
Anyway, that is another country (unless you are in France just now) so need not affect our decisions.
I'm planning to stay active (and at a distance) from other people.
PS Scottish ski areas are open but cafes are closed, so they are letting people get their healthy exercise (physical and mental) without being called out by the Scottish government.
Anyway, that is another country (unless you are in France just now) so need not affect our decisions.
I'm planning to stay active (and at a distance) from other people.
PS Scottish ski areas are open but cafes are closed, so they are letting people get their healthy exercise (physical and mental) without being called out by the Scottish government.
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Has there been any evidence on the potential risk of passing by someone briefly outside while walking or running. Surely, the risk is less than queuing at Tesco’s?
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