Scottish 6 Days
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Day 3 (Dundurn) was probably the best combination of race arena and terrain I have ever seen. Thank goodness my round of golf with the Club Captain at St Fillans helped swing it for access - great string course and the only viable option for Junior courses not to mention getting over 1000 cars to the parking area.
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Big Jon wrote:By the way Mrs H - only 7 W65s chose to wear the trackers... maybe in future we'll not bother with oldies.
How disappointing - did the others give reasons for declining?
Thinking about it -probably Homer didn't help things along with
Homer wrote:Good to see there will be some live tracking. Marge has been chosen to carry one which would have been very amusing for me.
I'd just like to say a big thank you to those who carried the trackers - being stuck at home I found the W55 and W65 courses particularly interesting.
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Karen wrote:I've always taken the view that taking children orienteering is enough of a handicap that I don't begrudge the parents what small advantage they might get from seeing where the start and finish are!
Theres nothing in any rulebook about knowing where the start and finish are... And competitors are free to go to the start and back before their run as it isn't out of bounds...
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Great to see results out so quickly each day.
The formulae in the BOF ranking points each day on each course seem to give different points to those quoted for each person. Anyone know why?
The formulae in the BOF ranking points each day on each course seem to give different points to those quoted for each person. Anyone know why?
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Freefall wrote:Day 3 (Dundurn) was probably the best combination of race arena and terrain I have ever seen. Thank goodness my round of golf with the Club Captain at St Fillans helped swing it for access - great string course and the only viable option for Junior courses not to mention getting over 1000 cars to the parking area.
We got a bit of friendly ribbing re. Day 3 from Mrs KP's uncle who lives in Crieff, has St. Fillans as his home course and who was not allowed to play on Tuesday.
6 good days (7 including the "rest" day). All enjoyable and many thanks to all the officials and helpers. My one comment on courses would be that M60 day 5 was not at all what I was expecting from Craig a'Barns, as we only had our first 3 controls in the woods and then it was all on the open.
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A great set of events.
I was a "bit" disappointed, after the crossing of solid red lines on Day 2 and all the comments, to see at least one person climbing over a fence/wall combo marked with a solid red line on Day 6.
I was a "bit" disappointed, after the crossing of solid red lines on Day 2 and all the comments, to see at least one person climbing over a fence/wall combo marked with a solid red line on Day 6.
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MIE wrote:I was a "bit" disappointed, after the crossing of solid red lines on Day 2 and all the comments, to see at least one person climbing over a fence/wall combo marked with a solid red line on Day 6.
but perhaps not surprising given that the Day 2 decision did more to condone than condemn such behaviour
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King Penguin wrote:Freefall wrote:
6 good days (7 including the "rest" day). All enjoyable and many thanks to all the officials and helpers. My one comment on courses would be that M60 day 5 was not at all what I was expecting from Craig a'Barns, as we only had our first 3 controls in the woods and then it was all on the open.
Well, sorry about that at Ca'B. I was one of the planners. We had a variety of different areas and we tried to join them up, but sorry if that meant that he classic bit was not used on your course.
We did have significant worries that we would lose all of the southern sector of CaB south of the R/B start, due to the larch disease. That was preying on our minds.
Secondly, we were looking at classic Longs and route choices for the courses. Hopefully you found those adequately challenging.
Thirdly, I did try to run at least some of the legs of each of the longer curses in parallel with the elite courses- similar controls, not the same ones. Thought that would be worthwhile for comparing with the fast guys.
Glad to hear the rest of the week was great.
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Don't misquote Freefall it was King Penguin commenting on CaB courses. Freefall would have preferred more time out in the open and less in the woods.
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greywolf wrote:MIE wrote:I was a "bit" disappointed, after the crossing of solid red lines on Day 2 and all the comments, to see at least one person climbing over a fence/wall combo marked with a solid red line on Day 6.
but perhaps not surprising given that the Day 2 decision did more to condone than condemn such behaviour
Or perhaps he came in to download to dsq himself. There were some..
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greywolf wrote:MIE wrote:I was a "bit" disappointed, after the crossing of solid red lines on Day 2 and all the comments, to see at least one person climbing over a fence/wall combo marked with a solid red line on Day 6.
but perhaps not surprising given that the Day 2 decision did more to condone than condemn such behaviour
I agreee thats potentially a broader consequence of the interpretation of the rules applied on Day 2. But I dont think thats necessarily the responsibility of the day officials to sort out. I'd support any amendment to the rules that allowed the Day officials to make their own decision but makes it clear that anyone infringing the rules and "self-disqualifying" should remain DQ. I think thats important for the integrity of the sport in future.
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Just wondering out loud...Did this issue affect the elite courses who had to run all 6 days to count? Clearly a self DQ/DQ on that course would have much bigger implications than for the other (any 4 from 6) courses.
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Wasn't at S6D this year but followed with interest. Could colourblindness or similar visual impairment have contributed to the Day 2 crossing violation?
Whatever, as mentioned elsewhere, it seems only way to ensure shortcuts aren't taken in similar situations is to have a control (or possibility of a control) at each permitted crossing point. No real reason why any one of two, three or however many can't be used, is there?
Yes, another thing for already stretched volunteers to sort but surely better than dealing with the situation that arose and struggling to find a solution acceptable to all affected.
Whatever, as mentioned elsewhere, it seems only way to ensure shortcuts aren't taken in similar situations is to have a control (or possibility of a control) at each permitted crossing point. No real reason why any one of two, three or however many can't be used, is there?
Yes, another thing for already stretched volunteers to sort but surely better than dealing with the situation that arose and struggling to find a solution acceptable to all affected.
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This is not a criticism but it does illustrate how difficult the uncrossable boundary situation can be. I was taking photos at one of these crossing points and a number of competitors crossed the fence right next to the stile. The red and white tape on the south side had worked loose and was flapping in the breeze. If the overprint is taken as shown there is a crossable gap either side of the crossing point (an easily made cartographic oversight in Condes?)
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Using red/white tape both for out-of-bounds and to highlight crossing points was potentially confusing.
Elsewhere on day 6 (and on other days) there were crossing points highlighted by having red/white tape roughly along the fence line adjacent to the crossing point, but where it was still permissible to cross the fence, and tape, without using the stile/bales. (And if there was a queue, potentially quicker)
So even if the tape hadn't worked loose I would still have interpreted the map sample above as being permissible to cross immediately adjacent to the crossing point
Suggest using different colours in future.
Elsewhere on day 6 (and on other days) there were crossing points highlighted by having red/white tape roughly along the fence line adjacent to the crossing point, but where it was still permissible to cross the fence, and tape, without using the stile/bales. (And if there was a queue, potentially quicker)
So even if the tape hadn't worked loose I would still have interpreted the map sample above as being permissible to cross immediately adjacent to the crossing point
Suggest using different colours in future.
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