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Rob Lines: https://www.flickr.com/photos/148096286@N05/albums
Wendy Carlyle: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wendles56/albums/
Steve Rush: https://www.flickr.com/photos/144212955@N04/albums
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The JK 2019
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Re: The JK 2019
Also for French large events (Nationals, French 5-day etc.), volunteers do not run at all (except sometimes juniors) and hence less manpower is needed. It is very much a "club decision" to bid for a big race.
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Re: The JK 2019
roadrunner wrote:I've often wondered why we don't seem to be able to get sponsors here when, as you say, it's commonplace for similar events abroad.
Partly unrealistic expectations. Back when we did the JK, BOF had some "best practice" guidelines on how much to ask for for various returns. Nobody was interested. At RacetheCastles we had 14 sponsors who made a contribution, the commercial contributions were....
Tunnocks gave us some teacake
Stoats gave us some porridge
Walkers gave us some shortbread
Tiso gave us some discount vouchers
Run & Become gave us discount vouchers, plastic bags and printed the warm up course (which started and finished at their shop)
None of which was close to BOF's guidance. And to be fair, quite probably the event would have run smoothly without the free porridge. In return I did promise to advertise these fine Scottish companies. I hope they'll notice I still do
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Test races at SprintScotland (Alloa/Falkirk) and Euromeeting (near Stirling).
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I've often wondered why we don't seem to be able to get sponsors here when, as you say, it's commonplace for similar events abroad. I know things are harder across the board since the financial crisis, but almost every road race or fun run has one or more sponsors, so you'd think we could get some for the premier orienteering events.[/quote]
I suggested some years ago the the BOF marketing people at the time speak to someone like Fernando Costa in Portugal for guidance on how they get their sponsorship over there. Don't think anything happened.
I've often wondered why we don't seem to be able to get sponsors here when, as you say, it's commonplace for similar events abroad. I know things are harder across the board since the financial crisis, but almost every road race or fun run has one or more sponsors, so you'd think we could get some for the premier orienteering events.[/quote]
I suggested some years ago the the BOF marketing people at the time speak to someone like Fernando Costa in Portugal for guidance on how they get their sponsorship over there. Don't think anything happened.
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On sponsorship, I think the only way that would happen if you have people who build long term relationship with some of the representatives of brands that may be interested in promotional opportunities. This may result in sponsorship over a longer period, or over a series of events. But even if it isn't, often these relationships need to be cultivated over a long period until they bear fruit in the form of sponsorship (people need to be convinced, then budget planned, then money allocated etc. - and pushing something new into that cycle may take years of persistence in some cases). This is especially true if that trust is built over a series of events, starting small, with feedback collected that the promotion was valuable, then getting that promotion size growing to be larger the next time around.
I don't think the current structure where the accountability of organising a JK, for example, passes on to someone new every year, with no (or little) continuity over substantive aspects, helps this.
I don't think the current structure where the accountability of organising a JK, for example, passes on to someone new every year, with no (or little) continuity over substantive aspects, helps this.
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psuba wrote:On sponsorship, I think the only way that would happen if you have people who build long term relationship with some of the representatives of brands that may be interested in promotional opportunities. This may result in sponsorship over a longer period, or over a series of events. But even if it isn't, often these relationships need to be cultivated over a long period until they bear fruit in the form of sponsorship (people need to be convinced, then budget planned, then money allocated etc. - and pushing something new into that cycle may take years of persistence in some cases). This is especially true if that trust is built over a series of events, starting small, with feedback collected that the promotion was valuable, then getting that promotion size growing to be larger the next time around.
I don't think the current structure where the accountability of organising a JK, for example, passes on to someone new every year, with no (or little) continuity over substantive aspects, helps this.
A tricky area and I agree that local long term contacts can bear fruit. Other sources that I have found that might give one off grants are if you have a wind farm close to an area the owners often have a community fund for mapping or equipment, and also recently a by pass (which didn't affect an actual mapped area) had community grants for the inconvenience whilst the bypass was built.
British Orienteering has reintroduced major event consultants in Helen Errington and Andy Yeates, as two orienteers they might be able to be the link between one JK and the next. Hopefully hey will be in position for quite a while as JK planning can start 3 or 4 years in advance.
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Re: The JK 2019
psuba wrote:On sponsorship, I think the only way that would happen if you have people who build long term relationship with some of the representatives of brands that may be interested in promotional opportunities. This may result in sponsorship over a longer period, or over a series of events. But even if it isn't, often these relationships need to be cultivated over a long period until they bear fruit in the form of sponsorship (people need to be convinced, then budget planned, then money allocated etc. - and pushing something new into that cycle may take years of persistence in some cases). This is especially true if that trust is built over a series of events, starting small, with feedback collected that the promotion was valuable, then getting that promotion size growing to be larger the next time around.
I don't think the current structure where the accountability of organising a JK, for example, passes on to someone new every year, with no (or little) continuity over substantive aspects, helps this.
Maybe one issue is the way the JK (and BOC etc) moves around the country every year, and Graeme's comments above seem consistent with this; most road races/fun runs, and some at least of the overseas events, are often in the same place (e.g. ASOM). Perhaps we need to attract sponsors for events in a given area, as opposed to big events across the whole country; then local companies might be more willing to be involved (e.g. a local sports shop).
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roadrunner wrote:psuba wrote:On sponsorship, I think the only way that would happen if you have people who build long term relationship with some of the representatives of brands that may be interested in promotional opportunities. This may result in sponsorship over a longer period, or over a series of events. But even if it isn't, often these relationships need to be cultivated over a long period until they bear fruit in the form of sponsorship (people need to be convinced, then budget planned, then money allocated etc. - and pushing something new into that cycle may take years of persistence in some cases). This is especially true if that trust is built over a series of events, starting small, with feedback collected that the promotion was valuable, then getting that promotion size growing to be larger the next time around.
I don't think the current structure where the accountability of organising a JK, for example, passes on to someone new every year, with no (or little) continuity over substantive aspects, helps this.
Maybe one issue is the way the JK (and BOC etc) moves around the country every year, and Graeme's comments above seem consistent with this; most road races/fun runs, and some at least of the overseas events, are often in the same place (e.g. ASOM). Perhaps we need to attract sponsors for events in a given area, as opposed to big events across the whole country; then local companies might be more willing to be involved (e.g. a local sports shop).
ASOM doesn’t stay in Antwerp every year nor does POM in Portugal and they still get plenty of sponsorship
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The only national sponsor that I can think of that would be interested in targeting the membership demographic that BO have distilled us down to is SAGA! Maybe a stair-lift or mobility scooter company.
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Re: The JK 2019
Sprint Scotland is pleased to announce a £1500 sponsorship deal with Edinburgh Airport to support mapping costs, equipment and ongoing permanent courses based on a phone app.
Please feel free to support them by flying up. The areas are under the flight path.
Please feel free to support them by flying up. The areas are under the flight path.
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Test races at SprintScotland (Alloa/Falkirk) and Euromeeting (near Stirling).
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graeme wrote:Sprint Scotland is pleased to announce a £1500 sponsorship deal with Edinburgh Airport to support mapping costs, equipment and ongoing permanent courses based on a phone app.
Please feel free to support them by flying up. The areas are under the flight path.
I see no problem attending a sprint event on a multi-level map of Edinburgh Airport... Of course, one that includes both landside and airside! I can see many fun route choices if we are allowed to pick which gate doors can be chosen to remain open, which closed etc.
Surely they would not mind some temporary closure to accommodate the event. (on the serious side, I know of a number of "airport runs" where the tarmac is used for the run, even in fairly high traffic airports, and they are quite popular)
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Re: The JK 2019
While we wait for results just a comment on sponsorship. EventScotland (which is essentially linked to the Scottish Government) has been very supportive of the Scottish 6 Days and World Orienteering Championships in terms of financial contribution. Finding private sponsors has proved more elusive though we saw money from Ramboll in 2017 and this year Silva are offering controls in kind.
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Re: The JK 2019
I see that BOF have published the GB teams for JWOC, EYOC and JEC without waiting for the official results of the JK, which comprised half the selection races this year.
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RoT wrote:I see that BOF have published the GB teams for JWOC, EYOC and JEC without waiting for the official results of the JK, which comprised half the selection races this year.
I know people on here like to do a bit of BOF bashing but you are working hard to find a reason for it here
I can confirm that, at the senior selection meeting on Tuesday, the senior selectors had the necessary information about senior elite performances at the JK. I for one will do the junior selectors the courtesy of assuming that they too ensured they had the information they needed for selection purposes.
Why did I do that...
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RoT wrote:I see that BOF have published the GB teams for JWOC, EYOC and JEC without waiting for the official results of the JK, which comprised half the selection races this year.
They only seem to have selected half a team for EYOC, perhaps they're waiting for the JK results before selecting the rest
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