Lake District Mountain Trial
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Lake District Mountain Trial
The longest established orienteering event in Great Britain. The Mountain Trial is a test of mountain navigation and safe movement across the lake district fells. three courses available Classic (30K), Medium (20K) and Short (15K). The short course has the option to compete as a pair. Full details at http://www.ldmta.org.uk/
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Re: Lake District Mountain Trial
Entires close Monday I believe. A good few orienteering names on the start list already.
An event centre of Gatesgarth in Buttermere should allow Mike to send us anywhere - Wasdale, Eskdale, Ennerdale, Langdale, NW fells, Keswick...
An event centre of Gatesgarth in Buttermere should allow Mike to send us anywhere - Wasdale, Eskdale, Ennerdale, Langdale, NW fells, Keswick...
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ba-ba wrote:Entires close Monday I believe. A good few orienteering names on the start list already.
An event centre of Gatesgarth in Buttermere should allow Mike to send us anywhere - Wasdale, Eskdale, Ennerdale, Langdale, NW fells, Keswick...
From present entries I'd predict an orienteer to win but I'm not going to predict which one!
I wouldn't expect any road crossings and we've been NW and Central in recent years so maybe heading south and west?
And I'll forecast at least two more female entries for the medium course by the deadline, one being a former winner
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Think it's possible for orienteers to win all three classes
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gaw wrote:From present entries I'd predict an orienteer to win but I'm not going to predict which one!
Potential to weaken the Scottish SHI team as well?
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Cracking courses planned by my kind, a shame we were pulled off the hill due to bad weather! Results (as they are: complete for the Short, up to C5 for the Classic, not sure what they did for the Medium!) here: http://www.sportident.co.uk/results/201 ... sic_splits
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ba-ba wrote:Cracking courses planned by my kind, a shame we were pulled off the hill due to bad weather!
Agreed - I think that was possibly the best Trial course I've run, and it's a real shame that we didn't get to complete it. But, given the conditions, I have no argument with the organisers' decision.
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Yes I have no argument at all, though I was happy as a pig in muck! I cooled very quickly once the race was off.
Be interesting to know if anyone else (other than Graham Watson, who I passed, and myself) went direct from 3-4, 600m climb over the corridor route and col between Great End and Ill crag. I only lost small time to most who went via Styhead/Esk Hause (bored of that route from Wasdale races), but lost 6+mins to Murray!
Be interesting to know if anyone else (other than Graham Watson, who I passed, and myself) went direct from 3-4, 600m climb over the corridor route and col between Great End and Ill crag. I only lost small time to most who went via Styhead/Esk Hause (bored of that route from Wasdale races), but lost 6+mins to Murray!
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I took the same route as you on that, albeit rather more slowly. It didn't seem too bad at the time - I was pleasantly surprised not to get stuck on a crag at any point - but looking at the splits I reckon I would probably have been better off going around.
I've been similarly wondering whether anyone other than me and Ellie Johnstone took the cowards' route via Seatoller, the Seathwaite road and the Styhead Gill path on the long leg. Not sure it was the fastest option, but it was nice to be out of the wind for a bit.
[Edit: I'm told that Routegadget should be up at some point soon.]
I've been similarly wondering whether anyone other than me and Ellie Johnstone took the cowards' route via Seatoller, the Seathwaite road and the Styhead Gill path on the long leg. Not sure it was the fastest option, but it was nice to be out of the wind for a bit.
[Edit: I'm told that Routegadget should be up at some point soon.]
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ba-ba wrote:lost 6+mins to Murray!
Most of which I gave back to you by faffing around in the tarns on the next one!
As I was running over the tops to 3,alternating between getting stopped in my tracks by headwinds and blown off the path by gusty tailwinds while soaked to the bone I was thinking to myself "how bad does bad weather have to be before they switch to the bad weather route?". When there was no marshall at 3 telling us to switch to the WWR and go direct to 5 I thought my judgement was well off - that was the biggest relief when we were stopped!
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rocky wrote:ba-ba wrote:lost 6+mins to Murray!
Most of which I gave back to you by faffing around in the tarns on the next one!
As I was running over the tops to 3,alternating between getting stopped in my tracks by headwinds and blown off the path by gusty tailwinds while soaked to the bone I was thinking to myself "how bad does bad weather have to be before they switch to the bad weather route?". When there was no marshall at 3 telling us to switch to the WWR and go direct to 5 I thought my judgement was well off - that was the biggest relief when we were stopped!
Which way did you go 3 - 4? 6 mins was a big gain.
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Scott wrote:I took the same route as you on that, albeit rather more slowly. It didn't seem too bad at the time - I was pleasantly surprised not to get stuck on a crag at any point - but looking at the splits I reckon I would probably have been better off going around.
I've been similarly wondering whether anyone other than me and Ellie Johnstone took the cowards' route via Seatoller, the Seathwaite road and the Styhead Gill path on the long leg. Not sure it was the fastest option, but it was nice to be out of the wind for a bit.
[Edit: I'm told that Routegadget should be up at some point soon.]
Looking at other splits I'd reckon I would have been a few minutes faster going round but never like doubling back, and also knew there was a decent trod to go up.
As for Seatoller and the valley I know Steve B, Quentin H, and Mark P all made use of the road but am fairly sure from the splits they lost time through that choice. I'm not comparable to them on time but my split taking the Gillercomb, Base Brown col and descending traverse to Styhead was much better than most of my other splits so think was a good choice.
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I won the long leg split by 6mins (from Scoffer) on a Honister/Gillercombe/BaseBrown route, even with some faff near the control. I think most people dropped to the road route, the drop off Dale Head (and not coming all that way to run along a road!) dissuaded me from that, and the path to Styhead was apparently a bit of a wind-funnel.
I managed to lose the Borrowdale race trod around Allen Crags going to 5 and got a bit more caught up than ideal. Had we carried on, finding the climbers' trod around Gable would probably have been the crux of the route and one local knowledge would have been very useful for.
I managed to lose the Borrowdale race trod around Allen Crags going to 5 and got a bit more caught up than ideal. Had we carried on, finding the climbers' trod around Gable would probably have been the crux of the route and one local knowledge would have been very useful for.
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Coming off Dale Head wasn't too bad - there's a fairly good trod down the fence - but yes, Styhead Gill was fairly windy. There was nobody in sight in front of or behind me on that route but a *lot* of people appeared when I got near the control, so I'm assuming that quite a few others took a different route. At least one person told me afterwards that they had gone via Moses Trod, and there were definitely others approaching the control from farther down the valley...
I definitely agree that there would have been potential to lose a lot of time later among the screes on the back of Gable.
I definitely agree that there would have been potential to lose a lot of time later among the screes on the back of Gable.
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