Although interesting ,I would not describe my course as more runnable let than day, certainly the early part was heathery boulders with added brashin. I think it depended which start you were on. I had the green, also white , the terrain made for quite a physical orange as well I wa's told.
Still, enjoyable and interesting with decent weather mainly and an apparently smooth organisation..Rock on Scotland Whisky tasting tonight, tomorrow will have to take
care of itself.
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Deeside Camera Club have posted a few photos at http://www.flickr.com/dcc6days and they will continue to do so through the week.
If anyone wants full-size high-resolution copies of the photographs with the copyright watermark removed, they can email: 6days at deesidecameraclub.org. There will be no charge but they suggest a donation is made to Braemar Mountain Rescue through mydonate: https://mydonate.bt.com/charities/braemarmountainrescue
If anyone wants full-size high-resolution copies of the photographs with the copyright watermark removed, they can email: 6days at deesidecameraclub.org. There will be no charge but they suggest a donation is made to Braemar Mountain Rescue through mydonate: https://mydonate.bt.com/charities/braemarmountainrescue
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Birsemore (day 3) excellent technical challenge as promised, best of 3 good days so far. Well done to planners and controller getting us back to Arena through the narrow corridor. Looking forward to upper Deeside for the second part of the week after a Rest Day doing Cairngorm Munros.
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Yellow weather warning for rain on Thursday afternoon...
"Showers will become heavy and slow-moving from late morning and through the afternoon, with some localised thundery downpours likely. This could lead to some short-lived, localised disruption to transport routes due to surface water flooding."
That may solve the water shortage on the campsite
"Showers will become heavy and slow-moving from late morning and through the afternoon, with some localised thundery downpours likely. This could lead to some short-lived, localised disruption to transport routes due to surface water flooding."
That may solve the water shortage on the campsite
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Does anyone else find it depressing that S6D hasn't achieved a single mention in the sports pages of the Press & Journal? (The regional daily for NE Scotland). Meanwhile there's been no lack of coverage of local parkruns featuring winning times of 20 mins+, and full-page feature on the Ballater 10 mile race last weekend.
I know for a fact that this is not through any lack of effort by the S6D publicity team. The press simply don't seem to recognize orienteering a sport.
Roger Scrutton, SOA's President, quoted British Orienteering research in the March edition of Score (SOA mag). "British Orienteering has long promoted the competitive element as the principal attraction,but, and I’m not surprised, only 2% of respondents saw competition as a motivator."
Could it be that our own attitude to our "sport" is part of the problem?
I know for a fact that this is not through any lack of effort by the S6D publicity team. The press simply don't seem to recognize orienteering a sport.
Roger Scrutton, SOA's President, quoted British Orienteering research in the March edition of Score (SOA mag). "British Orienteering has long promoted the competitive element as the principal attraction,but, and I’m not surprised, only 2% of respondents saw competition as a motivator."
Could it be that our own attitude to our "sport" is part of the problem?
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Sunlit Forres wrote:Could it be that our own attitude to our "sport" is part of the problem?
Probably, if its a problem.
S6D has always presented itself as a holiday event. No special treatment for elites unless we have to, no big worry about fairness due to tracking up - it averages out over the week and so isn't a problem unless anyone is daft enough to use a particular day for selection or somesuch, in which case it's their lookout.
Try asking round the field obvious questions a sport reporter covers: "who is winning the six-day" or "who is the current champion" or "How many people are in the race?". Nobody knows and nobody cares. And don't try some "Here's a list of our 57 varieties of winner" - life's too short.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
and Parkrun isn't even meant to be a competition...
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Agree that we need to decide whether we want to present the image of a serious sport.Sunlit Forres wrote:Could it be that our own attitude to our "sport" is part of the problem?
No idea what the publicity team have been sending to the local press, but assume I am a reporter looking for the results on the website ...
... there is nothing about the current leaders on the main page; after details for today, the headline article is "Rest Day Report";
... none of the "Day [x] Reports" have details of (any) winners;
... the Day 3 Report starts off
... all the results, even for Day 1, are "Provisional" - are the juries still deliberating?"This was probably the first orienteering day ... where knitted aliens were presented to the winners"
... even if I pick "Multi-Stage Results" from the Results page I am still presented with 70 different sets of results - how am I supposed to know where to start?
... even if I can somehow guess that W21E is an important one, is there a local interest - where are 'LOC' and 'BASOC' ?
... etc etc
None of this is to decry the efforts of Freefall and the many volunteers pulling everything together - within the sport the S6D website is probably as good as any you will find. It is great for people who know what they are looking for, but not sure it really presents the image of a serious sport?
Compare this with eg the Ballater 10 results page, where I can quickly see that the top 10 women included runners from Aberdeen, Stonehaven & Deeside.
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graeme wrote:if its a problem.
It's only a problem if we want to attract more fit 21-35 year olds (which I am told we do).
My own view, even though I can't participate any more due to heath reasons, is that I'd rather be associated with a sport that is taken seriously as a sport. I agree with Snail that we need to make a bit more of a big deal about who the winners are. Maybe a prominent public press release at the end of each day would be helpful.
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I guess you have the choice of two stories, which could be of interest to the press
Either
"There was a serious race on that Graham Gristwood from Forth Valley won"
Or
"3,000 runners from 40 countries aged 8-88 descend on Deeside forests"
Either
"There was a serious race on that Graham Gristwood from Forth Valley won"
Or
"3,000 runners from 40 countries aged 8-88 descend on Deeside forests"
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Arnold wrote:I guess you have the choice of two stories, which could be of interest to the press
Indeed. Both can, and should, be used - one for the sports editor and the other for the "news" editor.
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We have a press person on the Central organising team who has done a huge amount of effort in publicising the event in newspapers, social media tried TV etc. She had a finite amount of time and skills.
The Scottish 6-Days takes a vast amount of time and national press coverage is so hard to get that it becomes depressing to bang your head off a brick wall again and again.
How about some expert on Nopesport offering to do the job - if we're being so poor at it (its not a skill set that anyone in Maroc and Interlopers was prepared to deploy).
The Scottish 6-Days takes a vast amount of time and national press coverage is so hard to get that it becomes depressing to bang your head off a brick wall again and again.
How about some expert on Nopesport offering to do the job - if we're being so poor at it (its not a skill set that anyone in Maroc and Interlopers was prepared to deploy).
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Sunlit Forres wrote:graeme wrote:if its a problem.
It's only a problem if we want to attract more fit 21-35 year olds (which I am told we do)...
...and if we see the S6D as the vehicle for doing this.
Certainly S6D is failing to do this. I was on registration Day 1, busy all day with changes and EoD (giving out numbers well over 4100 by the end ), but there were no novice 21-35s queueing to register. I don't see too many under 35s reading the P&J either, the 10k views of those Poppycock Films seem like a better investment
The S6D doesn't see attracting or inspiring novices as its remit. Like Jon says, we could promote the elite more. What would you like us to stop doing to free up the time?
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