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Culbin SOL 7
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Thanks GW. Really enjoyable weekend. Culbin is such a nice place to run and both sets of courses on Sat and Sun were nicely challenging.
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
A great 2 days and a wonderful place to run - though the bit by the coast today certainly added contrast !
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
I voted for option 1 in the EGM but I'm starting to understand why some Scots think otherwise.
Judging by the tweets coming from @GBROrienteering lately, one would assume that the OMM must be paying more than the £800 or so in levy (my guess) that Moravian will. Ours was the other event taking place in the "Scottish Highlands" last weekend. Maybe we might get noticed more next time when the levy might be in to 4 figures.
Judging by the tweets coming from @GBROrienteering lately, one would assume that the OMM must be paying more than the £800 or so in levy (my guess) that Moravian will. Ours was the other event taking place in the "Scottish Highlands" last weekend. Maybe we might get noticed more next time when the levy might be in to 4 figures.
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Great weekend. Well worth the long drive north. Big thanks to Eddie and Jon for some excellent courses and to the rest of MOR for all their efforts.
BO may have had a bit of a windfall, but so, I presume, has Moravian with a considerably bigger entry than expected. Spend it wisely. SI?
BO may have had a bit of a windfall, but so, I presume, has Moravian with a considerably bigger entry than expected. Spend it wisely. SI?
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Homer wrote:Great weekend. Well worth the long drive north. Big thanks to Eddie and Jon for some excellent courses and to the rest of MOR for all their efforts.
BO may have had a bit of a windfall, but so, I presume, has Moravian with a considerably bigger entry than expected. Spend it wisely. SI?
Thanks! Entry only marginally larger than expected: 504 starters on Sunday cf 451 at SOL5 (Highland Wolf). SI? I wish....
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Sunlit Forres wrote:Judging by the tweets coming from @GBROrienteering lately, one would assume that the OMM must be paying more than the £800 or so in levy (my guess) that Moravian will. Ours was the other event taking place in the "Scottish Highlands" last weekend. Maybe we might get noticed more next time when the levy might be in to 4 figures.
A wonderful illustration of how it's impossible to please everyone! From last year's OMM thread:
SeanC wrote:One thing that's always puzzles me is why mountain marathons aren't on the BOF fixture list and (from my memory) rarely feature in Focus. I know the fixture list needs registered events, but the OMM (and other mountain marathons) needs orienteering and orienteering needs the OMM. Orienteering (in the UK) doesn't really have any good "challenge" events for the punter, I know orienteering is challenging, but it's not quite the same thing. People want something big to aim for. A more popular OMM could attract lots of younger people into orienteering as nav training for OMM or other mountain marathons. Obviously the mountain marathons need orienteers as volunteers and as competitors.
Why not go for some cross publicity? I notice the OMM twitter feed is full of orienteers and orienteering clubs at the moment, it's entirely possible that some of their other followers might notice.
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
daffdy wrote:Why not go for some cross publicity? I notice the OMM twitter feed is full of orienteers and orienteering clubs at the moment, it's entirely possible that some of their other followers might notice.
Exactly! And hence why I (using @GBRorienteering) re-tweeted a couple of OMM tweets while sat at the EGM.
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Completely agree. My club does that too. But don't bite off (or neglect) the hand that feeds you.daffdy wrote:Why not go for some cross publicity?
Homer wrote:BO may have had a bit of a windfall, but so, I presume, has Moravian with a considerably bigger entry than expected. Spend it wisely. SI?
Given the choice I'd prefer SI. But it's not quite so simple.
Back in the day, all the North clubs decided to go with EMIT when e-punching came on the scene. While BASOC and INVOC have changed to SI, the other 3 including MAROC and GRAMP have stuck with EMIT.
In Moravian's case, £20K was invested a few years back in equipping local schools and our Active Schools team with EMIT. We considered SI, demonstrated both to school staff, and got competitive quotes for both but the decision was made to stick with the same kit that was used in club events that the kids could attend. One of the attractions of using EMIT for schools was the simplicity of use - no need to synch boxes etc.The RAF even bought it (RIP RAF Kinloss - they left the kit to Moravian in their will!).
As a result Moray is awash with kit, and this gives the club access to far more resource than would otherwise be available. Hence two complete sets of controls were available locally for the two events this weekend. While kit is borrowed from schools when the need arises we also lend our own kit to schools when they need more than the 20 controls/30 brikkes they already have, for festivals and the like. It would need a huge outlay to change the whole of Moray to SI.
Most school kids in Moray get to experience orienteering, complete with e-punching, at school which means they are familiar with the kit when they come to club events.
So on balance, I think the minor inconvenience of putting up with a clunky punching system is a small price to pay for development that will hopefully guarantee the future of orienteering in the area.
The only fly in the ointment, I guess, is what will happen when the EMIT brikkes start dying off. But that's a decision for another day.
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Spookster wrote:daffdy wrote:Why not go for some cross publicity? I notice the OMM twitter feed is full of orienteers and orienteering clubs at the moment, it's entirely possible that some of their other followers might notice.
Exactly! And hence why I (using @GBRorienteering) re-tweeted a couple of OMM tweets while sat at the EGM.
To be fair though the tweet from BOF that irked SF wasnt a retweet it was an original tweet. The exact wording was:
""Good luck to all those out on the Scottish Highlands for the @theomm this weekend #OMM2016
Now on first reading not all that contentious, and I am sure it was written in good faith, but when you consider that
A - The OMM wasnt in the Scottish Highlands.
B - A very big Scottish Orienteering League (including junior inter areas) weekend event was!
C - This is the same weekend that we were being asked to vote on an increased levy for our events
D - The OMM doesnt pay any levy
E - The Moray mix weekend pays a huge levy.
You can surely understand why this might make some of us think BOF is taking the piss ever so slightly by asking for more levy?
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Excuse my ignorance, but what exempts the OMM from paying levies?
I'm sure the Grampian Mountain Challenge (which is in less than 2 weeks and combines forest orienteering and mountain marathon disciplines) will be subject to BO levies... what's the difference?
I'm sure the Grampian Mountain Challenge (which is in less than 2 weeks and combines forest orienteering and mountain marathon disciplines) will be subject to BO levies... what's the difference?
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
Doesn't need / take BO insurance, not registered as an orienteering event, doesn't follow BO (or IOF) rules, competitors don't have to be BO members. It's a free country.
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
plain lazy wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but what exempts the OMM from paying levies?
At some stage, BOF levies were raised to a level where all the Mountain-orienteering events decided that the cost outweighed the benefits. Some registered with the FRA, others just decided they didn't need an NGB and became independent.
There are plenty of exempt events: Xplorer, runchallenge, redbullrobinhood...
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Re: Culbin SOL 7
I have wondered from the outset why the "new formats" invented / promoted by BO seem to be the only O events exempt from levy. I seem to recall hearing even an annual long-established charity event cannot get exemption.
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