Just spotted this on the BOF news page:
Headcams and other wearable cams
Having taken advice, I’m sorry to have to ask all competitors not to wear headcams whilst participating in orienteering. Further to this I’m instructing all event organisers to require participants to remove headcams prior to the start in all events registered with British Orienteering.
There are a number of issues around headcams including safeguarding and land access that have led to the taking of this decision. I do not see this ban on headcams being in place long, just until we are able to issue an updated policy and procedures relating to the wearing of headcams and other wearable cams. Hopefully this will be within a matter of weeks.
Apologies to all of our participants that might use a headcam or might be thinking of experimenting with a wearable cam.
Item posted by Mike Hamilton, Chief Executive.
Posted on Tuesday 12th July 2016
Headcams
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Re: Headcams and cameras
It should also be noted that this also infers that NO cameras, phones or ANY recording media at all should or can be permitted at any orienteering event or in a public area, despite what the law says!
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Re: Headcams
nooomember wrote:It should also be noted that this also infers that NO cameras, phones or ANY recording media at all should or can be permitted at any orienteering event or in a public area, despite what the law says!
Actually it doesn't infer anything. It might imply something though it does seem fairly clear that it is referring specifically to headcams - there are already guidelines for other forms of photography.
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Re: Headcams
There is also already an adequate guideline referring to 'GoPro' devices, 4.8.1
"Competitors may also want to use personal video cams such as the GoPro devices. Providing this is for personal use and
not explicitly for videoing others, event organisers should feel free to use their own judgement in coming to a decision"
By inferring or implying, I was just making the point of how the current 'policy' on cameras should also be looked at if Headcams are, or are they being singled out for whatever reason?, oh, but I forgot, they can't police everyone with a smartphone!
"Competitors may also want to use personal video cams such as the GoPro devices. Providing this is for personal use and
not explicitly for videoing others, event organisers should feel free to use their own judgement in coming to a decision"
By inferring or implying, I was just making the point of how the current 'policy' on cameras should also be looked at if Headcams are, or are they being singled out for whatever reason?, oh, but I forgot, they can't police everyone with a smartphone!
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Re: Headcams
British Orienteering has today confirmed that July 12th's headcam band was an interim measure which has now been superseded by a general policy on "Safeguarding, image taking & the using of images".
See here for the announcement.
See here for the announcement.
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Re: Headcams
Can't say I've read every word of the 8 pages but blimey, it looks like an eminently sensible approach!
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Re: Headcams
Yes, on a quick scan through this seems entirely sensible, and a big improvement on the previous photography guidance which made a weird distinction based on whether the camera had an external zoom lens.
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Re: Headcams
Avoid using images showing the full face and body of a child;
Gonna be some weird looking podium pics for the U16s then. Cut off the head maybe?
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Re: Headcams
What is the definition of a "child", the document does not give any upper age limit. Should we assume as a Junior in orienteering is M/W20 that Child = Junior who may well be a JWOC contender aged 20 and who can drink, get married, vote etc?
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PhilJ wrote:What is the definition of a "child", the document does not give any upper age limit. Should we assume as a Junior in orienteering is M/W20 that Child = Junior who may well be a JWOC contender aged 20 and who can drink, get married, vote etc?
No, you should assume that the well established legal definition of a "child" applies.
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Re: Headcams
Thanks for the cryptic reply, so in light of your source for googledegock here is what free dictionary states
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Child
So some sources define a child as between the ages of birth and puberty, which further searches show as 4 - 11 years, whereas as other sources (united nations convention on the human rights of the child, nspcc) states it as below the age of 18 years.
Glad that's clear then...so what age is BO using, or is that to difficult to answer?
Issue new policy - key fact missing doh!
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Child
So some sources define a child as between the ages of birth and puberty, which further searches show as 4 - 11 years, whereas as other sources (united nations convention on the human rights of the child, nspcc) states it as below the age of 18 years.
Glad that's clear then...so what age is BO using, or is that to difficult to answer?
Issue new policy - key fact missing doh!
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Re: Headcams
Nothing cryptic about my reply.
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Re: Headcams
The definition of a child in child protection guidance
England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland each have their own guidance for organisations to keep children safe. They all agree that a child is anyone who is under the age of 18.
From the NSPCC website.
England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland each have their own guidance for organisations to keep children safe. They all agree that a child is anyone who is under the age of 18.
From the NSPCC website.
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Re: Headcams
Not sure what the land access issue is about in Scotland - due to the Access Code here where responsible access is allowed to anyone over (almost) any bit of land. Maybe Mike getting mixed up about English compared to Scottish legislation?
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Re: Headcams
Big Jon wrote:Not sure what the land access issue is about in Scotland - due to the Access Code here where responsible access is allowed to anyone over (almost) any bit of land. Maybe Mike getting mixed up about English compared to Scottish legislation?
I don't know how the law differs in Scotland, but I would have thought that in urban-type events, using universities, army bases etc. the land owner would have some rights to control what was allowed.
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