Date for the diary - Saturday 2nd July, Sheffield.
Race will use The Edge, part of Sheffield University, and be held in the late afternoon to allow people to also compete at the EPOC's weekend of orienteering - "Woods, Park and Town events"
Entries not open yet, but will be soon, on Fabian4.
Organiser: Martin and Lesley Ward, SYO
Planner: Michael Adams, SYO/EUOC
Controller: Ranald Macdonald, DVO
More event details coming soon, but classes will be:
Open - 4 legs (MWMW), which can be a team of 4 running a leg each, or a team of 2 or 3 running more than one leg each.
Juniors/Vets - 3 legs, middle leg slightly shorter. Each team to contain at least one man and one woman, who may run in any order. (I.e. it's designed for MWM, but doesn't have to be run that way).
(Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
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(Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
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Re: (Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
More info available now on the SYO website, and entries are open on Fabian4.
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Re: (Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
Realistically how long do you thing the courses will take for ordinary old people like us? We have a dinner date that night
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Mrs H wrote:Realistically how long do you thing the courses will take for ordinary old people like us? We have a dinner date that night
For the middle (shorter) leg on the Super and Ultra Vets courses I'm expecting a 2km course (running distance, not straight line). At 9 mins/km (your speed at the Olympic Park), you'd be 18 minutes.
I've estimated a 6.10pm start for Veterans & Juniors, but it'll be as soon as we have the first three Open teams back (so maybe 6pm or 6.05pm)?
I'm hoping we'll have the Veteran winners by 7pm, and enough back to do a prize giving no later than 7.30pm.
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Re: (Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
A reminder that pre-entries close tonight for the mixed sprint relays.
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Re: (Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
Great idea - hope it goes well. Nice to see a couple of Scottish teams. Would have tried to rustle up another vets team but needing a weekend off to cut the grass...
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Re: (Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
Here are the teams running the relays later today.
https://www.southyorkshireorienteers.or ... ylist2.pdf
plus a former British M21 Sprint Champion, who just needs to find himself a woman to make a team.
https://www.southyorkshireorienteers.or ... ylist2.pdf
plus a former British M21 Sprint Champion, who just needs to find himself a woman to make a team.
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Here are the results: https://www.southyorkshireorienteers.or ... mpionships
Congrats to FVO's GG and Fanni for winning the Open after a close race with Shuoc (Matt, Charlotte and Oli).
Feel free to let us know what worked well, or not, so we can amend the draft Guidelines for us in a real British Champs.
Congrats to FVO's GG and Fanni for winning the Open after a close race with Shuoc (Matt, Charlotte and Oli).
Feel free to let us know what worked well, or not, so we can amend the draft Guidelines for us in a real British Champs.
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Re: (Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
Really enjoyed it. Very good venue. Very good courses. The sudden change of the pit in the wood completely threw me - so more chopping between urban and non-urban terrain might be effective. Not sure about the proximity of control 66 and 69. Looking at the tracks in the long grass a few people went over an uncrossable wall onto the road to cut the corner.
It's a shame there were not more teams taking part, perhaps a different time of day or holding it conjunction with another event might help.
We got back in plenty of time for our meal, but i wish I had been able to stay and see the later races.
It's a shame there were not more teams taking part, perhaps a different time of day or holding it conjunction with another event might help.
We got back in plenty of time for our meal, but i wish I had been able to stay and see the later races.
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How do you sort out the gaffling for people running the same course twice? Isn't it a bit dull the second time around?
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graeme wrote:How do you sort out the gaffling for people running the same course twice? Isn't it a bit dull the second time around?
I think the draft rules which allow two or three people to be competitive on the 2-man/2-woman open make it very difficult to plan. How can you create gaffles which provide much new terrain for the second run without losing the head-to-head element of a high-speed relay?
I recognise the desire to make it more inclusive by allowing clubs that don't have two elite-standard men and two elite-standard women to compete, but am not convinced that such a team should become British Champions. Maybe there should be a "smaller clubs" British Champion trophy for those teams that have repeat runs? (Not sure how to define a small club though, ShUOC and EUOC would probably qualify using the CSC rules).
[BTW the draft rules (here with Martin's comments for Saturday added) say "On the open class, men's and women's courses may be similar, but men must not be gaffled against women"]
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PG wrote:I recognise the desire to make it more inclusive by allowing clubs that don't have two elite-standard men and two elite-standard women to compete, but am not convinced that such a team should become British Champions. Maybe there should be a "smaller clubs" British Champion trophy for those teams that have repeat runs? (Not sure how to define a small club though, ShUOC and EUOC would probably qualify using the CSC rules).
Tend to agree with PG that the whole point of a relay is for a club to demonstrate strength in depth. The ability to repeat run is the one thing about the draft guidelines that stands out as dodgy to me. In any other context that would be a non-comp team. Surely clubs could get M/W 16-18 to run up or M/W vets. Its not as if they'd be out of their depth O wise. The fact that GG and Fanny won kind of emphasises the point I think.
The other crucial thing for me which I dont think falls into the scope of the current guidelines is when the event is staged. I doubt very much if our club could have rustled up more than a car load for a standalone sprint relay champs (we could have got 2 teams just out of our British Sprint champs entries). As it was the event at the weekend wasnt really on our radar. Is this an event that could slot into the sprint middle weekend somewhere? Friday or Sat evening? Or possibly the Sat evening of the CSC weekend?
Or here's a thought - what about regional heats and a final? Might encourage more teams to get along.
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andypat wrote: Is this an event that could slot into the sprint middle weekend somewhere? Friday or Sat evening? Or possibly the Sat evening of the CSC weekend?
GG originally suggested we ran it at the start of June on the Saturday before our YHOA sprint champs on the Sunday. When we lost that date to schedule a cancelled CSC heat we had a lot of discussion trying to find the best option, including running before the CSC final. Middle of the EPOC weekend (YHOA School champs Sat morning, Huddersfield Urban Sunday) ended up being the best option. I'm sure that when adopted as a level A event it will be linked with another major event. E.g. day before a regional championships if it doesn't fit into Sprint/Middle weekend?
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Re: (Trial) British Mixed Sprint Relay Champs
I think it would make sense to have the British Sprint and Sprint Relays together, then they can go at times of the year where forests aren't in great condition for middle events.
Then pair the middle with the nights. And BOC stays as BOC.
Then pair the middle with the nights. And BOC stays as BOC.
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mharky wrote:I think it would make sense to have the British Sprint and Sprint Relays together, then they can go at times of the year where forests aren't in great condition for middle events.
Then pair the middle with the nights. And BOC stays as BOC.
good thinking - I like the idea
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