Congratulations to Jackie on her new job.
And commiserations to those who missed out, particularly those short-listed.
Is there any news as to whether her old post is to be filled?
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Mike Hamilton wrote:It came across strongly at interview that Jackie now has a good understanding of orienteering
Should come in handy.
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Homer wrote:Is there any news as to whether her old post is to be filled?
That will probably depend on the funding situation, for the remaining time of the current contract, with Sport England. This will no doubt take some time to clarify and work through the system...
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A shame we haven't got an orienteer in charge of elite orienteering.
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Big Jon wrote:A shame we haven't got an orienteer in charge of elite orienteering
Ditto
Go orienteering in Lithuania......... best in the world:)
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Big Jon wrote:A shame we haven't got an orienteer in charge of elite orienteering.
what could possibly go wrong?
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Many congratulations to Jackie on her appointment.
Looking at both the Race the Castles sprint results and this years Danish Athletics Rankings, I note that Maja Alm has a 5km time of 16.28 from July. I would expect a UKA level 4 endurance coach to be capable of very useful input in the work that is required ahead of next year.
Looking at both the Race the Castles sprint results and this years Danish Athletics Rankings, I note that Maja Alm has a 5km time of 16.28 from July. I would expect a UKA level 4 endurance coach to be capable of very useful input in the work that is required ahead of next year.
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16:28 would be 10th in the UKA rankings. Scotia once crept into the UKA top-10 for 10k, and Jamie Stevenson topped the Scottish 5k rankings. An indication of how fast medal-winning orienteers need to be. The challenge for Jackie is whether to try to get the children of existing orienteers to that level, or get out and recruit talent as britishcycling did.
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nope it i still have the coolest hat in school
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.....what would be the incentive for this talent?graeme wrote: or get out and recruit talent as britishcycling did.
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aiming off wrote: Looking at both the Race the Castles sprint results and this years Danish Athletics Rankings, I note that Maja Alm has a 5km time of 16.28 from July. I would expect a UKA level 4 endurance coach to be capable of very useful input in the work that is required ahead of next year.
Unfortunately, as I understand it, despite the 'Perfomance Manager' title Jackie's remit is to develop the Talent Programme (primarily juniors) and she has no direct involvement in WOC other than line management of any performance staff and chairing of selection. That of course may change.
If you look at the results from Race The Castles in particular Stirling where there was less pre-race knowledge of the terrain, you will see that whilst Maja's running speed put her in contention it was her mental/technical strength which secured the victory. Similarly in the men's race all the top Brits made mistakes early on and a cleanish run gave Bobach the win.
Whilst basic speed is a big component of orienteering its only one part and the challenge for Jackie is going to be promoting and resourcing the sports specific component, at which the Danes appear particularly strong.
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3 elements in top level sport / orienteering. Physical, technical & mental. Getting the balance of the three is what's required to be at the top.
Concentrate on physical.... no chance
Concentrate on technical.... no chance
Concentrate on mental.... no chance
Concentrate on all three.... chance
Concentrate on physical.... no chance
Concentrate on technical.... no chance
Concentrate on mental.... no chance
Concentrate on all three.... chance
Go orienteering in Lithuania......... best in the world:)
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graeme wrote:16:28 would be 10th in the UKA rankings. Scotia once crept into the UKA top-10 for 10k, and Jamie Stevenson topped the Scottish 5k rankings. An indication of how fast medal-winning orienteers need to be. The challenge for Jackie is whether to try to get the children of existing orienteers to that level, or get out and recruit talent as britishcycling did.
I can't speak for Scot but I know that Jamie was a competent orienteer at a relatively young age and benefited from coaching input and many hundreds of hours of terrain and map work at home and abroad resourced by the regional and national squads.
There is a lot of debate about the nature of 'Talent'. Certainly in the area of complex sports specific skills it is generally accepted that there is no such thing as 'natural talent' and that there is no substitute for thousands of hours of quality practice. There is more support for the idea of innate physical ability or mental strength although again there is no substitute for hard training and experience as an athlete develops.
The idea of Talent Transfer that Graeme describes tends to be employed by sports like cycling with fewer complex sports specific skills. Personally I've had more success turning sons and daughters of orienteers into runners than I have the other way round, but that might be just be my lack of sport specific coaching skills!
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graeme wrote:16:28 would be 10th in the UKA rankings.
Not sure how UKA generate their rankings, but Power of 10 shows 32 women with a 5000m time under 16.28 in 2014. Top 10 would need 15.45 or quicker.
Agree with Buzz that simply converting fit people into top orienteers is unlikely to be as effective a strategy as for many other sports.
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