Where are the great orienteering photos?
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Yup, you've got to be careful taking photos out in the forest at high profile events. At the JIRC a couple of years ago I was injured and thought it would be nice to get some photos of EA people at the start. The officials there were fine about it but Pauline Olivant wasn't and apparantly theres some rule (BOF or IOF I think) that says photographers have to remain between the start kite and the start. Presumably people were worried that I could be giving tips to outgoing runners.
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PeterG - diehard
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PeterG wrote: apparantly theres some rule (BOF or IOF I think) that says photographers have to remain between the start kite and the start
its gotta be BOF....
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which is what it is, though?
its dangerous, in the sense that in some places and terrain areas there is a high risk involved, and its adventurous.
Sorry to concern you Health & Safety Inspector
its dangerous, in the sense that in some places and terrain areas there is a high risk involved, and its adventurous.
Sorry to concern you Health & Safety Inspector
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a few wee thoughts for chrisecurtis. sounds like you are doing a great job promoting our sport as well as others to schoolkids. well done. posters are a good idea.
however, you cant use images stolen from the web. this is not due to copyright, cos i dont really care much. its because these images are too small and of too low a quality to make an impact. i know its probably all you have access to, but all you have to do is ask and we could supply you with some a3 size, print quality images for your posters. if you want any just let us know. i will even design you posters if you like.
you are also using far too much body text. it needs to be much shorter and snappier.
hope i havent over stepped the mark too much.
however, you cant use images stolen from the web. this is not due to copyright, cos i dont really care much. its because these images are too small and of too low a quality to make an impact. i know its probably all you have access to, but all you have to do is ask and we could supply you with some a3 size, print quality images for your posters. if you want any just let us know. i will even design you posters if you like.
you are also using far too much body text. it needs to be much shorter and snappier.
hope i havent over stepped the mark too much.
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You can do a lot with a poor quality picture and photoshop - I have cornered the market using a "plug-in" called "buzz simplifier" which can turn fuzzy detail into broad blocks of colour - rather "graphic" looking. It needs strong simple shapes in the original and can take some experimentation, but can work very well and produce an arty and eye catching poster. As for body text, depends how you design (I do know a little about this). If you look at the poster from a distance you see "Orienteering", "Squad training", "Friday lunchtime - astroturf" - (this text is very large and in bright colour). If you take a closer look, there is smaller text so you can learn a little more without having to find someone to ask. In a school, where you will walk past the same poster ten times a day, you need a little more to sustain interest than just the key message.
It would be great to get hold of some high quality promotional images for the sport as well - interesting that RYA (sailing) offers that service to schools for free - I will suggest it to BSOA.
It would be great to get hold of some high quality promotional images for the sport as well - interesting that RYA (sailing) offers that service to schools for free - I will suggest it to BSOA.
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To give an indication of what is possible, I have quickly adapted a small image "borrowed" from the gallery at compass sport - you can produce much higher quality than this if you spend some time playing around and you can work at A3 size - though this is kept to manageable web size!
click here to view larger version - screen size about 150K
and a smaller one to look at here:
click here to view larger version - screen size about 150K
and a smaller one to look at here:
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PeterG wrote:
Bendover wrote:
No it's not BOF. There is no mention in the BOF rules about photography. Rule 1.5.4 does state that "no person shall enter the competition area unless authorised by the Organiser", so it'll be at individual event discretion. Seems reasonable to me.
apparantly theres some rule (BOF or IOF I think) that says photographers have to remain between the start kite and the start
Bendover wrote:
its gotta be BOF....
No it's not BOF. There is no mention in the BOF rules about photography. Rule 1.5.4 does state that "no person shall enter the competition area unless authorised by the Organiser", so it'll be at individual event discretion. Seems reasonable to me.
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7.2.14 Competitors who have finished are not entitled to re-enter the competition area.
Which might scupper Ben's idea of getting an early run then heading back out. Should be OK for someone not running the course though.
Of course, you'd have to find someone who's content to wander around taking pictures rather than actually going orienteering. Might be tough...
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Nailest wrote:7.2.14 Competitors who have finished are not entitled to re-enter the competition area.
Which might scupper Ben's idea of getting an early run then heading back out. Should be OK for someone not running the course though.
Not entitled is not the same thing as not allowed, it just means that you'd need to obtain specific permission before going back out into the area to take photos. I'm sure most organisers would have no problem with it, though it might be more tightly controlled at major events because the presence of a photographer in the vicinity of a control might give its location away.
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At Warwickshire (senior and junior) athletics champs today,spectators had to sign in if they had a camera/video camera , and undertake that pictures/videos taken were for personal use only. There was a professional firm there, taking high quality photos for sale. Don't know how they ensured they only sold them to people with "legitimate" interest. Camera rule was part of a "welfare policy", and not to protect the interests of professional photographer.
So sounds as if Bendover needs to get trained quickly and get out and take some high quality, probably posed, promotional O pics of willing O volunteers/stuntpersons, (and then team up with Chris C for extra special effects to get punters' attention)
So sounds as if Bendover needs to get trained quickly and get out and take some high quality, probably posed, promotional O pics of willing O volunteers/stuntpersons, (and then team up with Chris C for extra special effects to get punters' attention)
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