I organise various adventure sports in a large school. The easiest way to get people to sign up for activities is to put a poster or two around the place. In these days of A3 colour printers, I have been known to "borrow" photos off various websites to catch the eye on these posters. (I do acknowledge and no money changes hands so it is just about within copyright "fair dealing"!)
Anyway, sailing, windsurfing, rock climbing, mountain biking - no problem. The web is crawling with pictures of people doing outrageous things and looking extremely cool. I was looking for some similar pictures of orienteering and was faced with acres of people standing around, lots and lots of people punching in (only interesting if you know them) and people vaguely running about. There were just one or two to hint what could be done, with people running downslope fast in woodland, jumping over brashings and the picture capturing some feeling of speed and location. Can anyone prove me wrong? What are the truly great orienteering action photos and where are they? (The posters are done so I will not try to copy them!)
Where are the great orienteering photos?
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there was a good one on the front of compass sport a few months ago of Rachel Majumder in mid-air jumping down a crag at the Creag Vinean FCC last year.
http://www.compasssport.com/gallery/CreagVineanFCC/small_P5031762
http://www.compasssport.com/gallery/CreagVineanFCC/small_P5031762
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I think to get the best pictures, you need to be out in the forest, otherwise it's all run-ins and spectator controls (but having said that, Bruce did get some quality ones at the JK). Alas, the nature of the sport is such that unless you have a map of the course(s) you have no idea where anyone is going to be. Even then, you can't really guarantee anything unless you're close to a control.
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tb nailest > of course, taking a camera round on the course with you would solve that problem. not sure whether you did that at some point, but if so, almost certainly the film must be nearing the front of the queue...
there are some pretty pictures at http://www.pwt.org , but the people are mostly orienteering in parks
there are some pretty pictures at http://www.pwt.org , but the people are mostly orienteering in parks
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Yeah, I'm sure I did that at some point. Not entirely sure when, but sounds like the sort of thing I'd do, doesn't it? I'll take a look in my big box of pics over the weekend. Probably wasn't a very good camera though.
The current one might be a bit of an encumbrance on the course, but some of these crazy youngsters with the new-fangled digital jobs might be up to the challenge.
The current one might be a bit of an encumbrance on the course, but some of these crazy youngsters with the new-fangled digital jobs might be up to the challenge.
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Maybe it's attitude. The photos you can find for other adventure sports did not just happen - people stage them to create an image for the sport. There seems to be a certain lack of marketing or image "nous" in orienteering. IMO staged photos should be "authentic" but it is rare to get a truly great photo by accident, especially in a sport where people are not confined to a pitch or court. The Dave Best picture illustrates this - with its zoomed "speed lines" effect (added afterwards?)
I had found the picture mentioned by Helen - exactly the sort of thing I was looking for - great shot.
I had found the picture mentioned by Helen - exactly the sort of thing I was looking for - great shot.
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[quote="chrisecurtis"]The Dave Best picture illustrates this - with its zoomed "speed lines" effect (added afterwards?)
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that was taken out in the forest, no computer editing or anything, just zooming while taking the photo (or something like that)
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that was taken out in the forest, no computer editing or anything, just zooming while taking the photo (or something like that)
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there are some fake pictures here http://www.lowegren.se/default.asp?webb ... dersida=62
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We staged some photos of my sister for her school magazine when she got selected for the world schools a couple of years back but they were really awful (not that the school noticed or cared). That said my sister isn't really an "extreme" orienteer.
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trebor pegged out plus forest thoughts
for one of Trebor covered with pegs, look on the Harlequins website under juniors.
but thinking of this whilst out collecting controls from yesterday evening's event I had a couple of video/poster promotional thoughts, which I throw open for usual nopesport mutilation/annihilation.
two themes (break it to me gently if they've BOTH been used before) "think on your feet" and "get a map, get a life" (or "get a map for life") First one opens to world champion bursting out of forest and then podium ceremony, interspersed with dobspiked feet pounding through undergrowth, and heartbeat pounding, then shot of little feet in O shoes and little hands going round string or white course, on beautiful paths, with map in evidence and eyes darting to look for path routes, then big feet smashing through undrgrowth, big eyes, sweaty forehead, map, fantastic dramatic control sites flying past, then adult feet again with M/W 65 plus similar to elite shots, then all three ages coming together down run in. Got to have lots of feet and concentrated thinking pictured.
"get a map, get a life" (or "for life") similar, but maybe poster with fantastic map with route choices centrally, surrounded by exciting pics of all generations (posed) out in forest.
Gimme some interaction here!
but thinking of this whilst out collecting controls from yesterday evening's event I had a couple of video/poster promotional thoughts, which I throw open for usual nopesport mutilation/annihilation.
two themes (break it to me gently if they've BOTH been used before) "think on your feet" and "get a map, get a life" (or "get a map for life") First one opens to world champion bursting out of forest and then podium ceremony, interspersed with dobspiked feet pounding through undergrowth, and heartbeat pounding, then shot of little feet in O shoes and little hands going round string or white course, on beautiful paths, with map in evidence and eyes darting to look for path routes, then big feet smashing through undrgrowth, big eyes, sweaty forehead, map, fantastic dramatic control sites flying past, then adult feet again with M/W 65 plus similar to elite shots, then all three ages coming together down run in. Got to have lots of feet and concentrated thinking pictured.
"get a map, get a life" (or "for life") similar, but maybe poster with fantastic map with route choices centrally, surrounded by exciting pics of all generations (posed) out in forest.
Gimme some interaction here!
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The themes I used for the posters were:
"Everything is green...
on the map and all around you. All you can see is trees, and more trees, too close together to run, but you know this way is fastest"
and
"You check your compass...
study your map, jump over a ditch and just when you are sure you are lost, you catch a flash of orange and you are there"
The poster goes on to a brief explanation of what orienteering is and where and when to turn up if you are interested.
"Everything is green...
on the map and all around you. All you can see is trees, and more trees, too close together to run, but you know this way is fastest"
and
"You check your compass...
study your map, jump over a ditch and just when you are sure you are lost, you catch a flash of orange and you are there"
The poster goes on to a brief explanation of what orienteering is and where and when to turn up if you are interested.
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i've just applied for a professional photography degree down in bournemouth. i'm heading off to sweden with scotjos this summer, if i get the time i'll try and stage some stuff. see what happens.
also will maybe try and get into the forest for some events after running over the next few months, though i guess i'll have to talk to some event organisers. if i get an early run on elite or something then i'll have an idea of where the good photo spots are. i guess the problem is whether or not the organisers see it as 'fair' if i am out in the forest after a run?
at o-ringen/w-cups/woc there are often places out in the forest designated to the press photographers to take action photos.
ben
also will maybe try and get into the forest for some events after running over the next few months, though i guess i'll have to talk to some event organisers. if i get an early run on elite or something then i'll have an idea of where the good photo spots are. i guess the problem is whether or not the organisers see it as 'fair' if i am out in the forest after a run?
at o-ringen/w-cups/woc there are often places out in the forest designated to the press photographers to take action photos.
ben
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