RouteGadget options plus Tinto Twin

[SYO Member]

If anything, the OS should pay us a fee to update their maps from our orienteering maps. The current 1:25,000 Explorer which includes SYO's Cawthorne Woods shows tracks and paths as they were nearly 60 years ago before much of the area was replanted. It also shows in Wombwell Wood an extensive quarry which over 30 years ago was filled in, replanted and is now almost mature woodland. I'm sure a similar thing applies in wooded areas across the country.

[Paul Frost]

I have now spoken to the OS about the licence issues.

If an OS map has been used as a base for the orienteering map there is a requirement to pay a licence fee to display it on a website.

It is called a PMCL (paper map copying licence), and costs £47.50 +vat per year. A separate licence is required for each website. So each club with its own RouteGadget installation would need one. The RouteGadget UK site would only need one licence to cover all maps displayed on it.

The OS issue a licence number that must be displayed on the page.

There is no licence required if the map is not based on a PG plot and not on an OS one.

So this will have an impact on the cost of providing the service.

[SeanC]

Hi Paul,

do you know if, once the club paid their money to OS, they would also be able to display maps outside of route gadget on their website (ie maps of permanent orienteering courses or for training purposes).

[Paul Frost]

The licence is to display maps on websites or print paper copies, not just in RouteGadget. The full terms can be found at the OS website.
There may be issues if you offer for download OS maps, but not to display them.

But don't forget, not all O maps are based on an OS map. PG plots are used much more now, all of EckO's maps are from PG plots. So you only need a licence to display OS based maps.

[ryeland of doom]

But don't forget, not all O maps are based on an OS map. PG plots are used much more now, all of EckO's maps are from PG plots. So you only need a licence to display OS based maps.

Another technique, to avoid the gouging gits,is to use out of copyright maps for a base.. 50 years old.

It really does make me angry that I cannot look at routes and maps of many British areas because of this censorship - for that is what it is.


When you think how little OS input is in our maps!

[Angry Haggis]

The NPE Maps are now out of copyright: See http://www.npemap.org.uk/ - might it be possible to base future maps on these, even if they are 1:63360?

Here's Leith Hill: http://www.npemap.org.uk/tiles/map.html#513,143,1
and Epping Forest: http://www.npemap.org.uk/tiles/map.html#542,198,1

Nothing for Scotland yet.

[ryeland of doom]

50year plus large scale maps can be useful - with lots of boundaries etc. such boundaries will probably still be there, even if only as earthbanks, but it is a framework.
The QO national event at Castle Neroche , Somerset a few years ago had a map based on these.

It appears that the OS demand multiple payments... You buy the base, pay a fee to print your map for the event, and now to realise the potential of reporting results completely. Worth cutting them out whenever possible.

[Nails]

Scotland here -bit earlier though -1930's

http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/os_scotland_popular_index.html