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[awk]

What were these abnormal conditions?

Quite possibly just what I said

If so, it would have been good to have been told.

[MIE]

What were these abnormal conditions?

Quite possibly just what I said

If so, it would have been good to have been told.

Too true

But, as has been mentioned in too many threads BO communication
(in common English instead of management speak) is sadly lacking,
at least to the membership. BO seems to spend too much time
communicating in management-speak with Sport England et al
and forgetting to translate into English for the membership.

Do you expect it to be any better in this case ?

[awk]

Do you expect it to be any better in this case ?

No . But one can still wish!

[Gross]

Do you expect it to be any better in this case ?

No . But one can still wish!

If we set our expectations any lower then we might as well all give up & anarchy will prevail

[Oldman]

But, as has been mentioned in too many threads BO communication
(in common English instead of management speak) is sadly lacking,
at least to the membership. BO seems to spend too much time
communicating in management-speak with Sport England et al
and forgetting to translate into English for the membership.

So that we non-managers can know what you mean, can you give a few examples?

[awk]

So that we non-managers can know what you mean, can you give a few examples?

Just read the Focus article on this topic.

[daffdy]

But, as has been mentioned in too many threads BO communication (in common English instead of management speak) is sadly lacking, at least to the membership. BO seems to spend too much time
communicating in management-speak with Sport England et al and forgetting to translate into English for the membership.

So that we non-managers can know what you mean, can you give a few examples?

Just read the Focus article on this topic.

You should try reading the actual submission! Not a particularly fun job. I've had to learn/work out what it all means recently, so I'm happy to translate any bits of Focus people find difficult while I can still remember how normal people speak. Post an example here or PM me.

[Oldman]

So that we non-managers can know what you mean, can you give a few examples?

Just read the Focus article on this topic.

Without Focus available, perhaps one or two quotes might help me understand?

[Spookster]

So here's most of the UKOL article from Focus. I can't see much "management speak" or "Sport England jargon" in it...

In 2013 British Orienteering is launching a new competition called the UK Orienteering League, which has been developed from the findings of the Competition Review. Effectively it will be an amalgamation of 3 existing competitions: FCC, UK Cup and Masters Cup and be a league based competition for individuals and club teams. The primary objectives are to:

• Encourage greater participation at a national level and thus increase the quality of competition.
• Provide competition in a variety of terrain types, across the United Kingdom.
• Promote new and alternative event formats.
• Provide an excellent sporting experience.

Annually the UK Orienteering League will consist of 16-20 events from February to November. In 2013 the league consists of 19 events starting at the British Night Championships which is taking place on the complex former mine working of Tankersely, Sheffield. As the season progresses competitors will find a real mix of race formats and terrain types; from the streets of London to the complex dunes of Culbin.

The competition is based around the standard age based class structure (It will apply to Long and A classes only, but where there are Elite classes the competition will only apply to these and not the Long class in those age groups. M/W 10, 12, 14 will not be included). Where events use a different class structure, e.g. urban events, classes will be disaggregated for the purpose of the UK Orienteering League scoring.

[Paul Frost]

You really need to read the whole article, but a couple of examples...

The switch from direct delivery by British Orienteering to a self-sustaining model of delivery by partners is a 4 year target. Traditionally British Orienteering has limited experience of working with external partnerships; there has consequently been a reliance on ‘internal’ partners, primarily clubs and volunteers. The last funding period has demonstrated to British Orienteering that:
a) Partnerships can be beneficial and effective. For example working with a number of CSPs and commercial work with a number of suppliers (SI, Fabian4 provide IT solutions and services at events).
b)...

Activators will ideally be recruited who have similar attributes and age profiles to the new participants. In time it is intended to recruit from within the ‘new participant’ groups. Review and reflection will be built into the training and Activators will be required to deliver a set product and to gain insight based on participant feedback. Such feedback will be fed into a process of review so that learning can take place quickly across the network of Activators and modifications to the product or offers can be agreed.

You can download the whole Focus edition 8MB

[andypat]

I work in a healthcare environment where nurses and doctors provide medical reports to employers. There's a bit of a tendency for the doctors to provide wordy and complex reports, possibly a bit of one-upmanship going on. But in fact its often more difficult to produce plain English reports that people can actually understand. Macmillan send all their cancer information nurses on courses at http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/ so they can provide written advice to people who, crucially, know nothing about cancer.

[Mrs H]

Thanks for that link Paul - I simply couldn't face the trauma of having to re-type that drivel just to satisfy Oldman's probing - haven't you received your copy of Focus yet Oldman? I could have pasted the whole article here as an example but I'll contain myself to this sentence

A key role for Activators supported by Participation Managers will be to ensure all participants are signposted to other activities and across into local club activities and events.

Signposted?

[Gross]

Signposted

From the verb to signpost.... Hit on the head with a no entry sign:)

[Oldman]

I no longer had my copy of Focus to hand and for some of us, 8Mb takes quite a while!

Thanks for the examples, some of which seem OK to me, but some undoubtedly use an internal jargon, unless of course the term "activator" is defined earlier in the article.

[Mrs H]

Well it is but the definition is also painful. By far the best thing about the article is the photo. I have warmed to the slightly camp young man in the fashionable chunky knit jumper but perhaps at least one girl and a bit more Gangnam style wouldn't have gone amiss.