BUSA RE: Scott Fraser
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Knowledge.. Does anyone other than mappers know Bentley that well. Its fiercely guarded by gomls (litter louts too on the evidence of my one run there) and infrequently used for orienteering - once it was available every 4 years only - came round levery olympic year.
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Excuse me, can you tell me where I am?
Excuse me, can you tell me where I am?
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ryeland of doom - blue
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I've never heard of any rule where a competitor must finish the course with their map.
I've finished many races without a map. I quite often used to drop my map at the last control or before, especially if it was a race where i got a new one after the race, e.g o-ringen in the old days. Thought i'd gain a few extra seconds on the run in by not having a big A3 map blowin in my face. Why do you need a map if you've already memorised the course, and can thus run without it?
A friend of mine was going training in the south of sweden with a mate. They'd planned to run a short race training in quite a technical area, however when they got to the area they realised they only had one map. So my mate spent 15 minutes memorising the whole course, let the other guy have the map, and ran the whole 5km course map memory without a mistake. Who needs a map?!
I think Scott's done a very noble thing disqualifying himself and deserves a lot of respect. Scott will go far in orienteering with an attitude like that.
I've finished many races without a map. I quite often used to drop my map at the last control or before, especially if it was a race where i got a new one after the race, e.g o-ringen in the old days. Thought i'd gain a few extra seconds on the run in by not having a big A3 map blowin in my face. Why do you need a map if you've already memorised the course, and can thus run without it?
A friend of mine was going training in the south of sweden with a mate. They'd planned to run a short race training in quite a technical area, however when they got to the area they realised they only had one map. So my mate spent 15 minutes memorising the whole course, let the other guy have the map, and ran the whole 5km course map memory without a mistake. Who needs a map?!
I think Scott's done a very noble thing disqualifying himself and deserves a lot of respect. Scott will go far in orienteering with an attitude like that.
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On the subject of home knowledge - I think you have to know areas very very well to really gain an advantage. I ran at Merthyr Mawr at the weekend where I've planned 3 races before, albeit 10 years since the last one. Only one of the 20 controls was a site I used before and I had to navigate the whole way round. OK Merthyr Mawr has a significant number of features to choose but a new planner shows you an area you know in a different light.
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FatBoy - addict
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FatBoy wrote:I ran at Merthyr Mawr at the weekend where I've planned 3 races before, albeit 10 years since the last one.
The relevant BOF Rule is #3.1.2:
At level 3 events and above, competitors shall declare themselves non-competitive if their acquaintance with the terrain would give them substantial advantage over other competitors. Nothing that occured more than 24 months before the date of the event shall be taken into account
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Simon - brown
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So we're OK, Fatboy
SI does have its downsides - I couldn't sniff out any controls on Sunday by following the smell of frying bacon to the manned control!
I was surprised there weren't more people there. One of those events where a 2+ hour drive to a colour coded is more rewarding than a shorter drive to a badge event, especially only 2 weeks before BOC.

SI does have its downsides - I couldn't sniff out any controls on Sunday by following the smell of frying bacon to the manned control!
I was surprised there weren't more people there. One of those events where a 2+ hour drive to a colour coded is more rewarding than a shorter drive to a badge event, especially only 2 weeks before BOC.
Make the most of life - you're a long time dead.
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Stodgetta - brown
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So what does this do for the FCC points? Will Scot get his 4th 60 of the campaign? or get 0?
Suppose thats for Hilary Palmer to decide??
Suppose thats for Hilary Palmer to decide??
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mat-d - light green
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Jene wrote:it wont matter tho will it..if its only best 3 to count
It won't matter to Scott but it will to the rest of us!!!!!
.... because it will push peoples points up and therefore Colin will be infront of me in the FCC because he will move up to 55 points not 51
.....AGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW ANNOYING!
Never mind...just have to win the British

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