I grant you it's much trickier on an open hillside than in an urban area or a forest. However then it just means the planner needs to work harder to find a creative solution.
Not knowing anything about the feasibility / other constraints, on the map extract some options could be:
- Put start triangle on the gate to the N (where competitors have presumably come from), and for TD1 have a taped route to the end of the path where the start triangle currently is
- Put the pre start directly to the East of the triangle, a little way down the hill where hopefully you can't see runners further uphill. Then at least the way to the first controls goes directly past the triangle
- Change the first control(s) so that the best route from the pre start goes via the triangle
None are ideal but they're all better than the alternative of policing whether all runners go to the triangle
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Re: Navigate to start kite
Arnold wrote:Having to remind start officials to remind runners they must go via the start and then policing it all is far too much hassle, and invariably someone will succumb to the temptation to shortcut (including me!)
And if orienteers are going to blatantly cheat (you can't claim ignorance of the rules after following this thread) in front of a crowd of witnesses, then what chance do we have of trusting competitors to follow marked routes, use mandatory crossings, not enter out of bounds areas and so on elsewhere on the course when they think no one is watching?
And if this gets widely known think about how much more difficult it will be to negotiate access with a landowner who is worried about damage to fences or environmentally sensitive areas.
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And follow marked route to finish. I remember controlling Euromeeting years ago and disqualified one of the GB teams in the relay for cutting the corner into the change over....
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pete.owens wrote:awk wrote:pete.owens wrote:If there is a taped route indicated on the map then it is compulsory to follow it - whether that is to the start, to the finish or somewhere mid-way on the course.
Having looked through the rules, I can't find any rule that states this. The closest I get is 7.7 "Competitors must follow any compulsory routes for the whole way
Well that seems pretty unambiguous.
Sorry, taken a while to pick this up.
No it's not unambiguous. There is nowhere that states that a taped route is compulsory. Semantics perhaps, but it's not made clear. (I've run in events in the past where taped routes have been advisory).
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I agree it's very difficult for less experienced folk but, for the more experienced, the map and control descriptions are surely all we should need. Indeed we can't be expected to do anything else but follow what's shown as permitted routes on the map/control desdcriptions.
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There is nowhere that states that a taped route is compulsory.
It is hidden away on page 38 of ISOM:
707 Marked route (L).
A marked route that is a part of the course. It is mandatory to follow the marked route.
which of course every orienteer will have read.
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ISOM 2017 wrote:707Marked route
A marked route that is a part of the course. It is mandatory to follow the marked route.
Minimum length: 2 dashes (4.5 mm – footprint: 67.5 m).
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