I also think you would need to consider the potential impact of somebody violating the OOB. I can certainly think of (for example) a college or two that have been used for the Oxford City Race where if a particularly grumpy porter spotted someone jumping a flowerbed it could result in permanently losing access to that college for future events.
Of course, in that situation the organiser and planner need to do everything they can to make sure make sure the temptation to jump a flowerbed isn't there in the first place - but bearing in mind that taping won't always be an acceptable option to the landowner!
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My wife has a ranking score for the prologue race for the British Sprints - but its not on the results list. How come?
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I agree with your second point, but not your first. You can't say it's ok to gain 5 seconds. Helen Bridle missed the British title by 2 seconds.
If you gain any time by taking an illegal route, you should be disqualified, even if it wasn't intentional.
It all depends on how you define "substantial".
OK 5 seconds sounds a lot vs 2 seconds behind, but you might lose more queuing to punch, or getting confused by an open gate mapped as closed (going uphill after the compulsory route in the prologue - anyone else?), or having to stop for pedestrians, or bumping into someone round a corner.
Of course fairness needs to be maintained, but if we spend days after every sprint race double checking every step and arguing about what was legal, then it's a bit excessive. To Big Jon's point, it wouldn't happen in "proper O" - you just accept it's not always 100.0% fair.
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andypat wrote:My wife has a ranking score for the prologue race for the British Sprints - but its not on the results list. How come?
They've "created" an extra event in order to attach the heats results to it, but ticked the "no publicity" box, so it exists, but isn't visible on the results or fixtures lists.
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Arnold wrote:To Big Jon's point, it wouldn't happen in "proper O"
But it does happen in terrain-O: just look at the recent discussion over the OUOC disqualification in BUCS.
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Spookster wrote:andypat wrote:My wife has a ranking score for the prologue race for the British Sprints - but its not on the results list. How come?
They've "created" an extra event in order to attach the heats results to it, but ticked the "no publicity" box, so it exists, but isn't visible on the results or fixtures lists.
Why 'no publicity'?
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I expect "no publicity" was ticked when the "extra event" was created, in order to avoid having two separate "British Sprint Championship" events appearing in the fixtures list. It could probably be unticked now to allow both sets of results to appear on the results page - try contacting the organiser?
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Already contacted, he referred me to BOF. They've been contacted. No more can be done.
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Even Ollie's Athlete Stats does not pick the Qualifiers up.
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King Penguin wrote:Even Ollie's Athlete Stats does not pick the Qualifiers up.
That's why I want them published!
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King Penguin wrote:Even Ollie's Athlete Stats does not pick the Qualifiers up.
Ollie's site works by taking the ranking points from the BOF results pages, so unless they appear there they won't be picked up. If Parkino has notified somebody at BOF then hopefully it will be addressed.
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Scott wrote:King Penguin wrote:Even Ollie's Athlete Stats does not pick the Qualifiers up.
Ollie's site works by taking the ranking points from the BOF results pages, so unless they appear there they won't be picked up. If Parkino has notified somebody at BOF then hopefully it will be addressed.
Notified and re-notified, after I was merely directed to the results as published by the Eborienteers.
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BOF Prologue results: http://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/index.php?pg=results&eday=62393
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Scott wrote:If Parkino has notified somebody at BOF then hopefully it will be addressed.
Emailing fixtures@britishorienteering.org.uk is probably better than asking (/moaning about) it on nopesport, as I found out for the Scottish Sprints...
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JamieP wrote:BOF Prologue results: http://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/index.php?pg=results&eday=62393
Thanks, Jamie.

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